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podcaster dan

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shukus who i i have to apologize again

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this episode has been hanging in my

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basket to get out for the longest time

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love messages because so so many things

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individualistic and you have to

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save yourself you have to be accountable

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welcome to skeptica where we explore

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controversial science and spirituality

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with leading researchers thinkers and

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i'm your host alex ciccaris and today we

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welcome

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dan chucus of the cosmic keys podcast

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you know dan was nice enough to have me

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about some interesting stuff that i

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dan welcome thanks for joining me yeah

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thanks for having me alex it's an honor

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because uh as i told you in our

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interview on cosmic keys

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i've been listening to skeptico for a

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while now and i never thought

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i never thought you would want to talk

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to me about stuff so thanks for having

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me i'm honored

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i don't know what i never know quite

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what to say to people that are honored

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that's cool i'll go with it i'll roll

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with it so

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for for folks who don't know you know

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cosmic keys gone through a couple

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iterations tell folks what you're doing

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over there these days but first

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who are you yeah well um

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god i don't know where to start so i i

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grew up well we talked about this on my

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new age community and i had been

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openly and at the time i was pretty

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nervous to put myself

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astrology forecast for the week ahead

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conspiracy topics the spiritual topics

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all of the controversy of 2020

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hermeticism um so yeah that's kind of

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get that you got to have a lane and you

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somebody that that has something

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just talk about current events more and

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of what i'm shooting for but

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the catholic church and pedophilia so

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most of us are just peasants and there's

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you know a select few that are at the

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top so

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yeah the long game is really interesting

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and it's and i think 2020

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was a year where we're

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in a new phase of the long game and when

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i look at people

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younger than me like people that are

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like gen z

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or younger like they're calling them

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like the

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the alpha generation like little kids

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right now

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i can only imagine how they're being

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conditioned right now

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with masks and with all of these

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propaganda things

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they don't know any better and um

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if we're if we're gonna try to take any

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control back from this like

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techno feudalism that they have ready to

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roll out

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it's gonna i mean we're gonna have to

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de-program a lot of this

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social engineering so

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it's it's kind of a dark thing to think

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about but i think

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that's why the spiritual is so important

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because if you literally

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um are in touch with your inner world

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and in touch

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with your soul and if you have a mindful

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if you practice some kind of mindfulness

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practice

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you can kind of step back and find

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inner peace in the middle of this

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whirlwind of of

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chaos well you kind of

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kind of laid a lot out there i'm going

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to try and pull it apart because

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the long game the big game

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and the only game that's how i break it

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down

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like here's where i take the long game i

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just connect the dots that you

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that you have so like you look at today

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in the pandemic and you go

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it it's a conspiracy if it at its

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simplest level it's a conspiracy

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that there's no medical scientific

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evidence behind any of these edicts

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right they're just

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they're just now edicts you know

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that and they're highly politicized so

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if you're apolitical like i am you just

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step back and go oh

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okay someone's running a game that's a

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program that's a project

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otherwise it doesn't work that way

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otherwise there's some kind of

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scientific

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basis for these things there's kind of

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some uh democratic basis for these

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things and

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and there isn't so you go okay i get it

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i've seen that before

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and and you've seen it before like you

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can go to 911

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like you said okay yeah you know the

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we we have this event and the next day

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there's a thousand page patriot act

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bill on the desk of congress you go that

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doesn't happen

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accidentally there's a list of seven

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countries we're going to invade and we

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invade them all

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that you just go okay i get it that's a

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game that's a program

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i would also connect it and that's the

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other one i want to throw on the table

369
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i was reminded of the interviews

370
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i did on global warming before i really

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caught on to it

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for what it was which is another game

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another project

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i kind of looked at it from a science

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perspective and it pissed me off because

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it's like

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you guys are not following the science

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and i'll never forget i talked to one

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guy

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and you know you want to go in to talk

381
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about like mk ultra programming you know

382
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like they always

383
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show the clip if you go on like the l

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roker thing where he freezes you know

385
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or people have other ones and i don't

386
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know if that stuff's real or not it a

387
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lot of it seems very very

388
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dicey but i think there's a kernel of

389
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truth to it

390
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as well in some ways and i remember i

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interviewed uh

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daniel pinchbeck who has a really

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interesting background i suppose

394
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when you look at his parents and stuff

395
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like that and in the media business

396
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which is always kind of a tip-off and

397
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he was back this was a few years ago

398
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when he was really pitching

399
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the uh climbing apocalypse stuff really

400
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really hard and really getting in my

401
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face and

402
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i guess he felt like i was kind of

403
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getting in his face too although i

404
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thought i was being pretty gentle about

405
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it

406
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but then i brought up and i said okay

407
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but yeah it's really about

408
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even if we believe what you're saying

409
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about global warming

410
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then the main thing that we're focusing

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on from a real issue is population

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overpopulation right i mean

413
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you you go from however bill however

414
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many billion you think we have now

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and you double it and you got a huge

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problem so you got to address that

417
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it was really interesting his response

418
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was like this

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like an al roker kind of program no

420
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there isn't a problem with

421
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overpopulation you could fit every

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person in the united states

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in the state of texas you could and and

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and that's what he said too that's

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another like like almost like a code

426
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phrase that these guys have

427
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it's not a population problem you could

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fit everybody in texas

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and then you just step back and you go

430
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that is so

431
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ridiculously absurd why would an

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intelligent person be kind of even

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spinning that

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anyone says that's why it goes we've got

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a popul a world

436
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population problem but that's been

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programmed into us that anyone who says

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that

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is somehow you know connected with

440
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eugenics and the rest of this

441
00:16:43,590 --> 00:16:42,480
well i mean we kind of know that's

442
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what's going on

443
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that there's some shade of that going on

444
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with the pandemic stuff

445
00:16:52,629 --> 00:16:50,720
but it's never made explicit it's always

446
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kind of in the in the background you

447
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know it's

448
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it's it's never made explicit so

449
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and and i guess i'm using that as

450
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another you know game kind of thing

451
00:17:04,549 --> 00:17:03,279
and then you want to put jfk in there

452
00:17:08,949 --> 00:17:04,559
and great

453
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so i'm reluctant

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to connect that with the way that you

455
00:17:14,710 --> 00:17:13,039
did

456
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the way that some people do and look at

457
00:17:18,870 --> 00:17:16,160
these occulted symbols

458
00:17:19,990 --> 00:17:18,880
and look at how these guys like to use

459
00:17:22,630 --> 00:17:20,000
numerology

460
00:17:24,309 --> 00:17:22,640
and all the rest that i'm not saying

461
00:17:27,990 --> 00:17:24,319
that isn't true

462
00:17:32,390 --> 00:17:28,000
i'm just saying that isn't necessary

463
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to look at this as a social engineering

464
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project

465
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um and i think it's it's useful

466
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to separate the two because if we look

467
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at the next category that i would have

468
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which would be

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the big game which is what's really

470
00:17:52,710 --> 00:17:50,720
behind that

471
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that's where i break down that other

472
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stuff and want to bring in

473
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the occult stuff i'd want to bring in

474
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evil as we understand it in the extended

475
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consciousness realm whatever that means

476
00:18:07,270 --> 00:18:05,440
and whether you think it's satanic or

477
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whether you think it's

478
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gnostic or whatever the hell you think

479
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it is and um

480
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you know so what do you think of that

481
00:18:22,549 --> 00:18:18,880
kind of division there do you think that

482
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that makes sense or is useful or

483
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just further complicates it no i think

484
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that is a good

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division like the long game

486
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having more um occult or evil

487
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satanic elements to it

488
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and it gets me thinking that

489
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all of all these kind of nefarious

490
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things that happen

491
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in the world with social engineering

492
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projects with these events you're

493
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talking about

494
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like i don't i don't necessarily think

495
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even the

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the top dogs that are working on these

497
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things

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are necessarily occultists or

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consciously trying to invoke evil

500
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i i think it's possible that

501
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these things are all invisible forces

502
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anyways and they're just part of the

503
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human psyche and they in this

504
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sort of weird metaphysical invisible way

505
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are always bringing us towards the long

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game which you're talking about

507
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um and it's it's all really speculative

508
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but it's if you have discernment you can

509
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kind of

510
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just see you know the people that are

511
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that are creating these these social

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engineering projects or these false flag

513
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events or these pandemics or whatever

514
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are motivated by things that are evil

515
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but i don't know if that means see how

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do we know that though

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see and that's where i make the

518
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distinction between the long game

519
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and the big game so to me the long game

520
00:20:01,909 --> 00:20:00,559
is if you think this is recent if you

521
00:20:03,350 --> 00:20:01,919
think this is just something that

522
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happened yesterday

523
00:20:06,789 --> 00:20:06,400
it isn't you know and that's why i went

524
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to

525
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can as as you did i mean you're the guy

526
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who originally kind of

527
00:20:15,590 --> 00:20:14,400
sent me down this direction there's a

528
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direct path

529
00:20:21,029 --> 00:20:18,799
between 911 and the pandemic

530
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and i'd even say in between there

531
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there's a stopping point with

532
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the failed attempt at uh global warming

533
00:20:30,149 --> 00:20:28,080
sure enlightening but you might even

534
00:20:34,070 --> 00:20:30,159
point to the failed attempt

535
00:20:36,149 --> 00:20:34,080
at the tic tac uh you know

536
00:20:37,750 --> 00:20:36,159
disclosure rollout kind of thing

537
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whatever they were trying to do that

538
00:20:41,669 --> 00:20:40,000
both those things failed and i haven't

539
00:20:41,909 --> 00:20:41,679
heard anyone really talk about that in

540
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an

541
00:20:46,470 --> 00:20:44,799
interesting way but the the global

542
00:20:49,590 --> 00:20:46,480
warming thing it just

543
00:20:50,149 --> 00:20:49,600
didn't work it got blown up by climate

544
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gate

545
00:20:54,230 --> 00:20:52,799
and then it got blown up by the weather

546
00:20:54,789 --> 00:20:54,240
these guys didn't realize and we think

547
00:20:57,110 --> 00:20:54,799
they're so

548
00:20:57,990 --> 00:20:57,120
freaking smart i mean they picked kind

549
00:21:00,149 --> 00:20:58,000
of a bad

550
00:21:01,750 --> 00:21:00,159
thing there when they picked the weather

551
00:21:04,390 --> 00:21:01,760
because they really ultimately they

552
00:21:06,549 --> 00:21:04,400
couldn't control it and people were like

553
00:21:08,390 --> 00:21:06,559
it ain't warming up you know it ain't

554
00:21:10,070 --> 00:21:08,400
doing it it's colder than hell here in

555
00:21:10,549 --> 00:21:10,080
boston this year what do you guys talk

556
00:21:13,430 --> 00:21:10,559
about

557
00:21:13,990 --> 00:21:13,440
it just didn't pass the test and then

558
00:21:17,270 --> 00:21:14,000
they

559
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absurd well

560
00:21:20,789 --> 00:21:20,400
the the it's getting colder the water is

561
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just

562
00:21:24,549 --> 00:21:23,679
the deep down below the water is really

563
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you know

564
00:21:28,630 --> 00:21:26,320
these kind of just bizarre kind of

565
00:21:31,750 --> 00:21:28,640
things so

566
00:21:35,270 --> 00:21:31,760
i see the i see this line of

567
00:21:38,310 --> 00:21:35,280
this long game but i'm not

568
00:21:40,149 --> 00:21:38,320
sure about the big game so to say the

569
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big game is a cult the big game is

570
00:21:44,950 --> 00:21:43,039
satanic the big game is this gnostic

571
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good versus evil

572
00:21:48,549 --> 00:21:47,600
throughout history it's really when you

573
00:21:51,590 --> 00:21:48,559
take the longer

574
00:21:52,710 --> 00:21:51,600
lens of history it's very difficult to

575
00:21:55,669 --> 00:21:52,720
tell

576
00:21:57,110 --> 00:21:55,679
you know the good guys from the bad guys

577
00:21:59,909 --> 00:21:57,120
without a scorebook

578
00:22:01,750 --> 00:21:59,919
you know is bill gates going to look

579
00:22:04,870 --> 00:22:01,760
like a superhero

580
00:22:05,750 --> 00:22:04,880
a hundred years from now because he cold

581
00:22:12,470 --> 00:22:05,760
the planet

582
00:22:13,669 --> 00:22:12,480
that's not my opinion if you ask me

583
00:22:17,510 --> 00:22:13,679
right now but

584
00:22:20,149 --> 00:22:17,520
you know someone someone in the future

585
00:22:20,870 --> 00:22:20,159
could make that argument if it turns out

586
00:22:24,070 --> 00:22:20,880
that way

587
00:22:27,029 --> 00:22:24,080
and you'd have to say you know that's it

588
00:22:28,630 --> 00:22:27,039
you know i was watching a a really weird

589
00:22:31,430 --> 00:22:28,640
um

590
00:22:32,390 --> 00:22:31,440
kind of digression but i was watching a

591
00:22:35,430 --> 00:22:32,400
world war ii

592
00:22:38,230 --> 00:22:35,440
uh documentary because my wife loves

593
00:22:39,029 --> 00:22:38,240
everything about holocaust and

594
00:22:40,470 --> 00:22:39,039
interesting and

595
00:22:43,190 --> 00:22:40,480
she's interested in it she went over

596
00:22:46,149 --> 00:22:43,200
there and toured all the

597
00:22:47,510 --> 00:22:46,159
you know all the the death camps and and

598
00:22:50,149 --> 00:22:47,520
she has a very somber

599
00:22:51,110 --> 00:22:50,159
you know concern about a deep concern

600
00:22:53,510 --> 00:22:51,120
it's not like she's a

601
00:22:55,190 --> 00:22:53,520
you know just a groupie for it she's

602
00:22:57,350 --> 00:22:55,200
there's a deep feeling and a deep

603
00:22:59,750 --> 00:22:57,360
sensibility to it but anyways we're

604
00:23:03,350 --> 00:22:59,760
watching the documentary

605
00:23:06,830 --> 00:23:03,360
and it's about how the british

606
00:23:10,310 --> 00:23:06,840
bugged they had this uh

607
00:23:13,909 --> 00:23:10,320
like prison encampment this high-end

608
00:23:17,430 --> 00:23:13,919
ritz-carlton bridge prison for

609
00:23:18,070 --> 00:23:17,440
nazi uh officers very high level

610
00:23:20,310 --> 00:23:18,080
officers

611
00:23:22,310 --> 00:23:20,320
generals and stuff like that so they

612
00:23:24,310 --> 00:23:22,320
brought them on and they kind of

613
00:23:25,750 --> 00:23:24,320
fattened them up and these guys spilled

614
00:23:27,350 --> 00:23:25,760
the beans they didn't realize it you

615
00:23:29,830 --> 00:23:27,360
know but the whole thing was bugged

616
00:23:31,110 --> 00:23:29,840
it's a brown stoning thing jeffrey

617
00:23:32,950 --> 00:23:31,120
epstein would be proud

618
00:23:34,710 --> 00:23:32,960
so they were constantly bugging these

619
00:23:36,310 --> 00:23:34,720
guys throughout the thing

620
00:23:38,310 --> 00:23:36,320
and they were just kind of made it very

621
00:23:39,669 --> 00:23:38,320
easy for them very lax environment and

622
00:23:41,269 --> 00:23:39,679
they started talking

623
00:23:42,710 --> 00:23:41,279
and they started giving up all this

624
00:23:44,149 --> 00:23:42,720
incredible information

625
00:23:46,470 --> 00:23:44,159
and at this time they started giving up

626
00:23:49,669 --> 00:23:46,480
a bunch of information about

627
00:23:53,190 --> 00:23:49,679
the death camps information that was

628
00:23:55,990 --> 00:23:53,200
unknown you know and they're

629
00:23:57,830 --> 00:23:56,000
and they're admitting these war crimes

630
00:23:58,390 --> 00:23:57,840
so at the end of the film you're like

631
00:24:00,710 --> 00:23:58,400
okay

632
00:24:02,630 --> 00:24:00,720
what happens to these guys right of

633
00:24:04,789 --> 00:24:02,640
course they're put on trial of course

634
00:24:08,070 --> 00:24:04,799
they're in nuremberg right

635
00:24:10,390 --> 00:24:08,080
no none of them were

636
00:24:12,549 --> 00:24:10,400
the british government who was primarily

637
00:24:15,669 --> 00:24:12,559
the one running the operation

638
00:24:18,340 --> 00:24:15,679
decided that it would be

639
00:24:19,510 --> 00:24:18,350
too big of a give up to

640
00:24:22,470 --> 00:24:19,520
[Music]

641
00:24:24,310 --> 00:24:22,480
disclose their practices that they might

642
00:24:26,390 --> 00:24:24,320
want to use this in the future or they

643
00:24:29,029 --> 00:24:26,400
might want to use this information

644
00:24:29,990 --> 00:24:29,039
so therefore they would let it all just

645
00:24:31,830 --> 00:24:30,000
be buried

646
00:24:33,190 --> 00:24:31,840
in the annals of history and it never

647
00:24:34,950 --> 00:24:33,200
would have been discovered if this one

648
00:24:37,830 --> 00:24:34,960
researcher didn't

649
00:24:39,269 --> 00:24:37,840
stumble upon it in some archives which

650
00:24:41,190 --> 00:24:39,279
probably should have never been there if

651
00:24:42,470 --> 00:24:41,200
they would have had a better sense that

652
00:24:46,870 --> 00:24:42,480
they were there

653
00:24:48,470 --> 00:24:46,880
but a long way around the barn

654
00:24:51,350 --> 00:24:48,480
who are the good guys and who are the

655
00:24:53,909 --> 00:24:51,360
bad guys there

656
00:24:54,549 --> 00:24:53,919
yeah that's definitely tricky because i

657
00:25:02,070 --> 00:24:54,559
mean

658
00:25:05,510 --> 00:25:02,080
how much of the cia today was

659
00:25:07,750 --> 00:25:05,520
influenced by the the project paper clip

660
00:25:09,430 --> 00:25:07,760
where all of those scientists were kind

661
00:25:12,549 --> 00:25:09,440
of divvied up

662
00:25:14,789 --> 00:25:12,559
and sent you know to the us or to the

663
00:25:17,269 --> 00:25:14,799
ussr back then

664
00:25:18,870 --> 00:25:17,279
and then the space race began and then

665
00:25:21,830 --> 00:25:18,880
mk ultra began

666
00:25:22,870 --> 00:25:21,840
and you know all of th that type of

667
00:25:25,430 --> 00:25:22,880
science that

668
00:25:26,630 --> 00:25:25,440
sick twisted manipulative type of

669
00:25:28,950 --> 00:25:26,640
science

670
00:25:30,549 --> 00:25:28,960
you know i learned about that in junior

671
00:25:32,310 --> 00:25:30,559
high when i learned about the holocaust

672
00:25:34,230 --> 00:25:32,320
when they were doing weird experiments

673
00:25:36,390 --> 00:25:34,240
in the concentration camps and you just

674
00:25:39,750 --> 00:25:36,400
had the sense that these

675
00:25:42,470 --> 00:25:39,760
nazi scientists were sick twisted

676
00:25:44,470 --> 00:25:42,480
psychopaths well we kind of that that's

677
00:25:44,870 --> 00:25:44,480
kind of the foundation of the post-world

678
00:25:47,990 --> 00:25:44,880
war

679
00:25:50,230 --> 00:25:48,000
ii america in a way with

680
00:25:51,190 --> 00:25:50,240
with everything that happened after that

681
00:25:52,950 --> 00:25:51,200
so

682
00:25:55,430 --> 00:25:52,960
it's i mean a lot of people have pointed

683
00:25:58,950 --> 00:25:55,440
this out but sydney gottlieb the guy who

684
00:26:02,230 --> 00:25:58,960
runs the mk ultra program

685
00:26:05,590 --> 00:26:02,240
is your classic sick twisted

686
00:26:08,149 --> 00:26:05,600
scientist and he happens to be jewish

687
00:26:10,870 --> 00:26:08,159
not that that matters although it does

688
00:26:11,350 --> 00:26:10,880
it we can't help but say that it matters

689
00:26:14,470 --> 00:26:11,360
given

690
00:26:14,870 --> 00:26:14,480
the weird historical context that we

691
00:26:17,909 --> 00:26:14,880
went

692
00:26:19,990 --> 00:26:17,919
exactly like you said and picked up

693
00:26:23,190 --> 00:26:20,000
where they left off with all these sick

694
00:26:26,310 --> 00:26:23,200
mk and german mind control

695
00:26:27,510 --> 00:26:26,320
projects and uh there's sydney gottlieb

696
00:26:29,590 --> 00:26:27,520
the only other thing i always point out

697
00:26:32,070 --> 00:26:29,600
is you know in sydney gottlieb i i

698
00:26:32,950 --> 00:26:32,080
i love this because it's like such a

699
00:26:34,870 --> 00:26:32,960
skeptical thing

700
00:26:36,310 --> 00:26:34,880
sydney gottlieb is in charge of the

701
00:26:38,470 --> 00:26:36,320
stargate program too

702
00:26:39,990 --> 00:26:38,480
you know the remote viewing program

703
00:26:41,430 --> 00:26:40,000
which we all want to say oh no that's

704
00:26:43,909 --> 00:26:41,440
really cool that's where we're

705
00:26:45,909 --> 00:26:43,919
you know fighting for freedom you know

706
00:26:47,190 --> 00:26:45,919
no sydney gottlieb comes as yeah let's

707
00:26:49,590 --> 00:26:47,200
deal some with lsd

708
00:26:51,510 --> 00:26:49,600
and see see what happens and yet you

709
00:26:52,710 --> 00:26:51,520
know we get uh russell targan hell put

710
00:26:54,470 --> 00:26:52,720
up so yeah and we

711
00:26:55,990 --> 00:26:54,480
had to tell sydney that wasn't a good

712
00:26:57,750 --> 00:26:56,000
idea and this and that

713
00:27:00,149 --> 00:26:57,760
yeah but cindy was your [\h__\h] boss

714
00:27:02,390 --> 00:27:00,159
dude sydney was your boss

715
00:27:03,190 --> 00:27:02,400
and he was running all these other sick

716
00:27:06,710 --> 00:27:03,200
freaking

717
00:27:09,830 --> 00:27:06,720
programs and exactly what you said dan

718
00:27:12,070 --> 00:27:09,840
that's who we had become

719
00:27:12,870 --> 00:27:12,080
and there's no evidence that that has

720
00:27:16,789 --> 00:27:12,880
changed

721
00:27:20,149 --> 00:27:16,799
you know i mean that is who we are

722
00:27:22,870 --> 00:27:20,159
yeah and it's i

723
00:27:24,549 --> 00:27:22,880
i remember yeah and now it's it's it

724
00:27:26,470 --> 00:27:24,559
gets me thinking there was some post

725
00:27:28,230 --> 00:27:26,480
from like a cia

726
00:27:29,990 --> 00:27:28,240
woman on twitter and they're kind of

727
00:27:30,789 --> 00:27:30,000
like putting themselves out there and

728
00:27:38,070 --> 00:27:30,799
like

729
00:27:41,110 --> 00:27:38,080
applying all the woke

730
00:27:45,590 --> 00:27:41,120
rhetoric to the freaking cia

731
00:27:47,510 --> 00:27:45,600
and um yeah it's it's

732
00:27:49,510 --> 00:27:47,520
all of those things and i was just kind

733
00:27:52,149 --> 00:27:49,520
of googling

734
00:27:54,389 --> 00:27:52,159
sidney uh godly of who you're talking

735
00:27:56,310 --> 00:27:54,399
about but

736
00:27:57,590 --> 00:27:56,320
again even when i think about the

737
00:28:00,830 --> 00:27:57,600
generations like the

738
00:28:03,909 --> 00:28:00,840
um the hippie movement there's a lot of

739
00:28:04,230 --> 00:28:03,919
cia a lot of cia involvement and all of

740
00:28:07,110 --> 00:28:04,240
that

741
00:28:08,070 --> 00:28:07,120
obviously the lsd thing the timothy

742
00:28:11,110 --> 00:28:08,080
learys

743
00:28:13,830 --> 00:28:11,120
and um so it seems

744
00:28:15,190 --> 00:28:13,840
so much like these big social changes

745
00:28:18,470 --> 00:28:15,200
kind of just

746
00:28:19,269 --> 00:28:18,480
organically uh burst forward and it's

747
00:28:23,110 --> 00:28:19,279
like oh yeah this

748
00:28:24,950 --> 00:28:23,120
it's time for us to evolve or change but

749
00:28:26,789 --> 00:28:24,960
a lot of the times it seems like it's

750
00:28:30,149 --> 00:28:26,799
it's controlled by

751
00:28:30,870 --> 00:28:30,159
these deep state forces and i i really

752
00:28:34,149 --> 00:28:30,880
think

753
00:28:36,389 --> 00:28:34,159
you know the 60s is a huge turning point

754
00:28:37,430 --> 00:28:36,399
then you know the 70s and 80s and 90s

755
00:28:40,149 --> 00:28:37,440
are kind of like

756
00:28:42,230 --> 00:28:40,159
easing into those changes and then boom

757
00:28:45,350 --> 00:28:42,240
911 new changing point

758
00:28:48,310 --> 00:28:45,360
like obama was a big changing point

759
00:28:50,149 --> 00:28:48,320
and now 2020 is going to be absolutely

760
00:28:53,190 --> 00:28:50,159
huge for like the big

761
00:28:54,950 --> 00:28:53,200
technocratic changing point and i don't

762
00:28:57,350 --> 00:28:54,960
even think we've seen

763
00:28:59,430 --> 00:28:57,360
um half of what's going to really roll

764
00:29:02,070 --> 00:28:59,440
out in the next few years with like

765
00:29:02,549 --> 00:29:02,080
all of these uh things that they've got

766
00:29:08,310 --> 00:29:02,559
ready

767
00:29:09,190 --> 00:29:08,320
are our kids and our grandkids going to

768
00:29:11,830 --> 00:29:09,200
be

769
00:29:13,430 --> 00:29:11,840
you know the spirit to god i swear to

770
00:29:14,870 --> 00:29:13,440
god i was driving through la jolla

771
00:29:18,070 --> 00:29:14,880
california the other day

772
00:29:18,389 --> 00:29:18,080
and i saw a building size it's only two

773
00:29:22,470 --> 00:29:18,399
three

774
00:29:25,990 --> 00:29:22,480
a mural of bill gates on it

775
00:29:29,990 --> 00:29:26,000
i'm like hey man

776
00:29:34,950 --> 00:29:30,000
there's a lot worse people in history

777
00:29:38,470 --> 00:29:34,960
that are you know posterized in that way

778
00:29:40,789 --> 00:29:38,480
well okay for bill gates in particular

779
00:29:41,750 --> 00:29:40,799
i mean i didn't know this about him

780
00:29:44,870 --> 00:29:41,760
until

781
00:29:45,590 --> 00:29:44,880
i think this year but his father was one

782
00:29:48,470 --> 00:29:45,600
of the

783
00:29:49,669 --> 00:29:48,480
founders of planned parenthood so what i

784
00:29:50,230 --> 00:29:49,679
mean i want to make sure you get my

785
00:29:52,310 --> 00:29:50,240
point so

786
00:29:53,269 --> 00:29:52,320
let's say all the bad stuff you know is

787
00:29:55,830 --> 00:29:53,279
true

788
00:29:57,990 --> 00:29:55,840
and all the stuff assume for a minute

789
00:30:01,029 --> 00:29:58,000
that all the crazy stuff that we hear

790
00:30:04,310 --> 00:30:01,039
about the vaccine is true

791
00:30:05,830 --> 00:30:04,320
does he still take is he still the guy

792
00:30:08,950 --> 00:30:05,840
who saved the planet

793
00:30:12,389 --> 00:30:08,960
because here's my point just being

794
00:30:14,950 --> 00:30:12,399
real skeptical for a minute you don't

795
00:30:17,909 --> 00:30:14,960
control population on the planet

796
00:30:19,350 --> 00:30:17,919
you're doomed so whatever you think the

797
00:30:23,190 --> 00:30:19,360
population is now

798
00:30:25,430 --> 00:30:23,200
8 billion 9 billion it it

799
00:30:27,029 --> 00:30:25,440
okay you can double it okay i don't

800
00:30:27,669 --> 00:30:27,039
think you can double it but you double

801
00:30:32,310 --> 00:30:27,679
it

802
00:30:35,350 --> 00:30:32,320
again

803
00:30:37,510 --> 00:30:35,360
you get to 32 billion because this

804
00:30:38,630 --> 00:30:37,520
can this planet really support that many

805
00:30:40,789 --> 00:30:38,640
people

806
00:30:42,310 --> 00:30:40,799
you know china was building those ghost

807
00:30:43,269 --> 00:30:42,320
cities for the longest time because

808
00:30:45,110 --> 00:30:43,279
they're like oh are we going to do with

809
00:30:47,430 --> 00:30:45,120
our population we got to pull

810
00:30:48,470 --> 00:30:47,440
bill put them someplace say build these

811
00:30:50,630 --> 00:30:48,480
huge

812
00:30:53,029 --> 00:30:50,640
cities and spend all this money with

813
00:30:54,950 --> 00:30:53,039
knowing they're just planning the growth

814
00:30:56,070 --> 00:30:54,960
well now they just kind of given up on

815
00:30:58,549 --> 00:30:56,080
that is someone just

816
00:30:59,269 --> 00:30:58,559
is someone at a higher level in the big

817
00:31:02,870 --> 00:30:59,279
big game

818
00:31:05,190 --> 00:31:02,880
saying you know it's just unsustainable

819
00:31:07,350 --> 00:31:05,200
and we got to figure out a way to do it

820
00:31:10,389 --> 00:31:07,360
that is the most humane

821
00:31:13,430 --> 00:31:10,399
but eventually we got to get to

822
00:31:13,750 --> 00:31:13,440
less people don't get me wrong folks i'm

823
00:31:16,310 --> 00:31:13,760
not

824
00:31:17,750 --> 00:31:16,320
advocating that i'm just saying until

825
00:31:21,110 --> 00:31:17,760
you put that out there

826
00:31:23,110 --> 00:31:21,120
until you really uh try and look at it

827
00:31:26,149 --> 00:31:23,120
from that perspective

828
00:31:29,830 --> 00:31:26,159
you don't understand the

829
00:31:31,990 --> 00:31:29,840
kind of logic of that argument because

830
00:31:34,310 --> 00:31:32,000
we're not treating the other part of

831
00:31:37,029 --> 00:31:34,320
that equation logically

832
00:31:38,710 --> 00:31:37,039
we don't have any global plan to control

833
00:31:40,470 --> 00:31:38,720
the population because if we did we

834
00:31:42,630 --> 00:31:40,480
would have done it 50 years ago and we

835
00:31:46,230 --> 00:31:42,640
wouldn't be in the mess that we're in

836
00:31:49,269 --> 00:31:46,240
yeah i mean it gets me thinking that

837
00:31:50,470 --> 00:31:49,279
there's i i agree that the you know the

838
00:31:52,870 --> 00:31:50,480
global population

839
00:31:53,590 --> 00:31:52,880
is a really important issue and if you

840
00:31:56,630 --> 00:31:53,600
have

841
00:31:58,470 --> 00:31:56,640
exponential population growth

842
00:31:59,909 --> 00:31:58,480
you know it kind of reaches a plateau

843
00:32:00,870 --> 00:31:59,919
and then plummets and that's kind of

844
00:32:04,149 --> 00:32:00,880
nature

845
00:32:07,509 --> 00:32:04,159
i think that's like a a natural thing um

846
00:32:09,909 --> 00:32:07,519
but when you have you know

847
00:32:11,110 --> 00:32:09,919
fam i would call it families like the

848
00:32:14,470 --> 00:32:11,120
rockefellers

849
00:32:16,070 --> 00:32:14,480
or you know the the gates family

850
00:32:17,750 --> 00:32:16,080
is actually very similar to the

851
00:32:21,190 --> 00:32:17,760
rockefeller family

852
00:32:23,990 --> 00:32:21,200
in that you know bill gates father

853
00:32:25,909 --> 00:32:24,000
uh was one of the original founders of

854
00:32:28,950 --> 00:32:25,919
planned parenthood which was a

855
00:32:31,909 --> 00:32:28,960
eugenics program it's like

856
00:32:33,350 --> 00:32:31,919
they that's out there that's clear and

857
00:32:36,630 --> 00:32:33,360
they were really trying

858
00:32:39,830 --> 00:32:36,640
to kind of achieve the same type of

859
00:32:41,509 --> 00:32:39,840
family goals as the rockefellers and

860
00:32:43,350 --> 00:32:41,519
with the rockefellers yeah there's the

861
00:32:46,710 --> 00:32:43,360
rockefeller foundations

862
00:32:49,830 --> 00:32:46,720
there's all these philanthropic

863
00:32:50,549 --> 00:32:49,840
uh groups that these people are involved

864
00:32:53,669 --> 00:32:50,559
with and it's

865
00:32:55,350 --> 00:32:53,679
all pr also so if you ask

866
00:32:58,710 --> 00:32:55,360
is bill gates going to be remembered as

867
00:33:01,669 --> 00:32:58,720
a hero in 50 years or 100 years

868
00:33:04,149 --> 00:33:01,679
well he has so much freaking money to

869
00:33:06,950 --> 00:33:04,159
put towards his pr campaign

870
00:33:07,669 --> 00:33:06,960
that probably he will i'm not saying

871
00:33:10,789 --> 00:33:07,679
it's going to be

872
00:33:13,669 --> 00:33:10,799
true but will he be remembered by people

873
00:33:15,430 --> 00:33:13,679
as a hero yeah because he's been putting

874
00:33:18,950 --> 00:33:15,440
god knows how much money towards

875
00:33:22,470 --> 00:33:18,960
that image crafting for his entire

876
00:33:24,549 --> 00:33:22,480
life so it's just

877
00:33:25,509 --> 00:33:24,559
and when you talk about the vaccines or

878
00:33:28,389 --> 00:33:25,519
the the

879
00:33:29,509 --> 00:33:28,399
being an anti-vaxxer anti-climate

880
00:33:32,710 --> 00:33:29,519
changer

881
00:33:34,630 --> 00:33:32,720
like these things are

882
00:33:37,110 --> 00:33:34,640
sort of just things that people spit out

883
00:33:40,310 --> 00:33:37,120
they they have the lines ready

884
00:33:42,310 --> 00:33:40,320
so so and they'll ostracize you like

885
00:33:43,990 --> 00:33:42,320
oh are you an anti-vaxxer then oh are

886
00:33:44,630 --> 00:33:44,000
you again you don't believe in science

887
00:33:48,389 --> 00:33:44,640
and it's all

888
00:33:50,389 --> 00:33:48,399
baseline really thoughtless

889
00:33:52,230 --> 00:33:50,399
reactions to certain things because

890
00:33:53,830 --> 00:33:52,240
those have been crafted by these social

891
00:33:56,870 --> 00:33:53,840
engineering

892
00:33:58,470 --> 00:33:56,880
forces i guess so i and i'm noticing

893
00:34:00,070 --> 00:33:58,480
that more and more this year like how

894
00:34:02,950 --> 00:34:00,080
many people in my life

895
00:34:04,310 --> 00:34:02,960
are just spitting out a reactionary

896
00:34:06,950 --> 00:34:04,320
response

897
00:34:07,909 --> 00:34:06,960
that was clearly crafted and even like

898
00:34:09,990 --> 00:34:07,919
on my show i

899
00:34:12,310 --> 00:34:10,000
one time was criticizing bill gates and

900
00:34:14,550 --> 00:34:12,320
i got some comments like

901
00:34:15,510 --> 00:34:14,560
bill and melinda gates have done so much

902
00:34:18,069 --> 00:34:15,520
help blah blah blah

903
00:34:18,950 --> 00:34:18,079
blah i'm like they bought that response

904
00:34:21,669 --> 00:34:18,960
from you

905
00:34:21,990 --> 00:34:21,679
and people don't talk about when you

906
00:34:24,869 --> 00:34:22,000
know

907
00:34:26,310 --> 00:34:24,879
how they're banned from india or how all

908
00:34:29,109 --> 00:34:26,320
of these vaccines

909
00:34:29,990 --> 00:34:29,119
were just accidentally sterilizing

910
00:34:33,750 --> 00:34:30,000
people

911
00:34:36,790 --> 00:34:33,760
or how in the bill gates ted talk

912
00:34:38,950 --> 00:34:36,800
video where he lists out how to

913
00:34:40,310 --> 00:34:38,960
you know control the global population

914
00:34:43,030 --> 00:34:40,320
and vaccine

915
00:34:44,069 --> 00:34:43,040
is one of the three bullet points it's

916
00:34:46,230 --> 00:34:44,079
like

917
00:34:47,829 --> 00:34:46,240
it's all out there and i think the

918
00:34:49,829 --> 00:34:47,839
things that motivate these really

919
00:34:51,669 --> 00:34:49,839
powerful families

920
00:34:53,669 --> 00:34:51,679
i think they have sort of like a god

921
00:34:55,430 --> 00:34:53,679
complex and they think they it's their

922
00:34:59,109 --> 00:34:55,440
job to do

923
00:35:00,550 --> 00:34:59,119
to do these big scale things to the

924
00:35:03,349 --> 00:35:00,560
planet when really like

925
00:35:04,230 --> 00:35:03,359
we should sort of let nature do its

926
00:35:06,550 --> 00:35:04,240
thing and yeah

927
00:35:08,790 --> 00:35:06,560
if our population gets out of control

928
00:35:10,390 --> 00:35:08,800
nature might shake us back into a more

929
00:35:13,190 --> 00:35:10,400
sustainable level

930
00:35:13,510 --> 00:35:13,200
but that doesn't involve mass deception

931
00:35:16,950 --> 00:35:13,520
of

932
00:35:19,750 --> 00:35:16,960
like sterilizing people or

933
00:35:21,990 --> 00:35:19,760
euthanizing people by you know giving

934
00:35:22,470 --> 00:35:22,000
them some vaccine or some environmental

935
00:35:25,109 --> 00:35:22,480
factor

936
00:35:27,670 --> 00:35:25,119
well here's here's i guess where i kind

937
00:35:31,829 --> 00:35:27,680
of pull the conversation back to

938
00:35:33,990 --> 00:35:31,839
you know long game big game only game

939
00:35:35,510 --> 00:35:34,000
so to me the long game is just saying

940
00:35:36,870 --> 00:35:35,520
hey these things have been going on for

941
00:35:38,550 --> 00:35:36,880
a long time

942
00:35:41,030 --> 00:35:38,560
if you want to go back even further like

943
00:35:43,190 --> 00:35:41,040
you were doing go back to christianity

944
00:35:44,870 --> 00:35:43,200
go back to constantine is always my

945
00:35:47,430 --> 00:35:44,880
go-to on that you know because people

946
00:35:49,990 --> 00:35:47,440
get caught up with jesus in the bible

947
00:35:51,109 --> 00:35:50,000
just go right to 400 or 350. whatever it

948
00:35:54,790 --> 00:35:51,119
is constantine

949
00:35:59,109 --> 00:35:54,800
yeah i think it's 3 15. create serfdom

950
00:36:03,190 --> 00:35:59,119
right he gives you this religion

951
00:36:05,589 --> 00:36:03,200
which is just an exact copy of the prior

952
00:36:07,030 --> 00:36:05,599
roman religion but he dresses it up he

953
00:36:08,870 --> 00:36:07,040
calls it christianity

954
00:36:10,230 --> 00:36:08,880
and he says okay now here's the good

955
00:36:12,230 --> 00:36:10,240
news

956
00:36:14,390 --> 00:36:12,240
everything's going to be okay after this

957
00:36:17,670 --> 00:36:14,400
life ah here's the bad news

958
00:36:19,910 --> 00:36:17,680
i kind of own you right now you can't

959
00:36:21,190 --> 00:36:19,920
you will do the job that i say you will

960
00:36:23,910 --> 00:36:21,200
have no property

961
00:36:24,790 --> 00:36:23,920
you will have nothing you are just a

962
00:36:30,109 --> 00:36:24,800
little tool

963
00:36:33,829 --> 00:36:30,119
for the state 315 350 here 315

964
00:36:37,349 --> 00:36:33,839
1700 years ago total

965
00:36:38,950 --> 00:36:37,359
uh you know game total game so the

966
00:36:41,270 --> 00:36:38,960
social engineering game

967
00:36:43,109 --> 00:36:41,280
and we can go council countless examples

968
00:36:47,589 --> 00:36:43,119
over and over and over again

969
00:36:51,990 --> 00:36:47,599
but that's different than the

970
00:36:55,670 --> 00:36:52,000
big game because the big game is

971
00:36:56,310 --> 00:36:55,680
evil the big game is the occult game the

972
00:36:59,670 --> 00:36:56,320
big game

973
00:37:01,829 --> 00:36:59,680
is the hidden game the satanic game

974
00:37:03,270 --> 00:37:01,839
because they're playing it at a

975
00:37:05,510 --> 00:37:03,280
different level

976
00:37:08,230 --> 00:37:05,520
because you only get so much you can

977
00:37:10,630 --> 00:37:08,240
only have so much money so much power

978
00:37:12,230 --> 00:37:10,640
you know it's like the one of my

979
00:37:13,990 --> 00:37:12,240
favorite quotes you know what do men of

980
00:37:17,030 --> 00:37:14,000
power want

981
00:37:18,870 --> 00:37:17,040
more power if that's how you've built if

982
00:37:20,069 --> 00:37:18,880
that's how you've constructed your

983
00:37:21,589 --> 00:37:20,079
consciousness

984
00:37:23,750 --> 00:37:21,599
then that's what you want and you'll go

985
00:37:26,470 --> 00:37:23,760
anywhere to get it so why wouldn't you

986
00:37:27,430 --> 00:37:26,480
extend into that other realm if it

987
00:37:30,630 --> 00:37:27,440
promised you

988
00:37:34,390 --> 00:37:30,640
whatever power live forever uh

989
00:37:36,710 --> 00:37:34,400
connection with entities that can do

990
00:37:37,750 --> 00:37:36,720
all this kind of stuff that's where

991
00:37:40,630 --> 00:37:37,760
you'd go

992
00:37:42,069 --> 00:37:40,640
and so let's talk about the big game and

993
00:37:43,349 --> 00:37:42,079
then just so people know where i'm

994
00:37:46,710 --> 00:37:43,359
coming from

995
00:37:50,470 --> 00:37:46,720
ultimately to me the only game

996
00:37:51,510 --> 00:37:50,480
the only game is a totally different

997
00:38:01,829 --> 00:37:51,520
game

998
00:38:02,870 --> 00:38:01,839
i don't cut off my thumb to spite my

999
00:38:05,430 --> 00:38:02,880
fingers

1000
00:38:06,870 --> 00:38:05,440
i don't battle people i don't try and

1001
00:38:09,750 --> 00:38:06,880
beat people

1002
00:38:11,910 --> 00:38:09,760
i just realize that we're all headed

1003
00:38:13,829 --> 00:38:11,920
towards the same

1004
00:38:15,990 --> 00:38:13,839
thing you know we're all doing the same

1005
00:38:19,109 --> 00:38:16,000
thing there's only the lightness

1006
00:38:21,990 --> 00:38:19,119
the darkness is just there to

1007
00:38:23,750 --> 00:38:22,000
to provide a relief to provide a

1008
00:38:27,030 --> 00:38:23,760
contrast for the game

1009
00:38:30,150 --> 00:38:27,040
so there i've kind of laid out my whole

1010
00:38:31,190 --> 00:38:30,160
thing let's see what you think well yeah

1011
00:38:34,630 --> 00:38:31,200
the uh

1012
00:38:38,310 --> 00:38:34,640
it gets me thinking a lot about you know

1013
00:38:38,870 --> 00:38:38,320
what this world is and on your show you

1014
00:38:41,910 --> 00:38:38,880
talk about

1015
00:38:45,750 --> 00:38:41,920
ndes and stuff with evil being present

1016
00:38:47,589 --> 00:38:45,760
here down here in this world um

1017
00:38:49,829 --> 00:38:47,599
and then just with the knowledge that

1018
00:38:53,589 --> 00:38:49,839
yeah love and forgiveness

1019
00:38:56,950 --> 00:38:53,599
and peace and you know spiritual bliss

1020
00:39:00,230 --> 00:38:56,960
is the real game but

1021
00:39:03,990 --> 00:39:00,240
yeah i think evil is

1022
00:39:06,150 --> 00:39:04,000
allowed to be present here

1023
00:39:09,109 --> 00:39:06,160
where we are in this in this realm and

1024
00:39:10,950 --> 00:39:09,119
in the extended consciousness

1025
00:39:12,870 --> 00:39:10,960
aspect of life on earth there are

1026
00:39:17,510 --> 00:39:12,880
definitely entities

1027
00:39:20,550 --> 00:39:17,520
and evil forces and chaotic forces but

1028
00:39:23,829 --> 00:39:20,560
if you think of it like i agree that

1029
00:39:28,790 --> 00:39:23,839
at our core us humans with

1030
00:39:30,550 --> 00:39:28,800
our us and sold humans you know

1031
00:39:31,910 --> 00:39:30,560
that stuff really at the end of the day

1032
00:39:34,710 --> 00:39:31,920
can't take away

1033
00:39:35,670 --> 00:39:34,720
what we have on the inside that can't

1034
00:39:37,910 --> 00:39:35,680
really

1035
00:39:39,589 --> 00:39:37,920
destroy our souls or our goodness our

1036
00:39:42,950 --> 00:39:39,599
connection to

1037
00:39:43,270 --> 00:39:42,960
the divine but i i sort of think that

1038
00:39:46,390 --> 00:39:43,280
like

1039
00:39:49,270 --> 00:39:46,400
this this world is a big game and

1040
00:39:50,550 --> 00:39:49,280
the the evil forces are here they're

1041
00:39:54,230 --> 00:39:50,560
allowed to be here

1042
00:39:56,390 --> 00:39:54,240
because they do lead to

1043
00:39:57,510 --> 00:39:56,400
evolution and growth and experience and

1044
00:40:00,870 --> 00:39:57,520
all of that

1045
00:40:02,950 --> 00:40:00,880
and i don't and even when they in the

1046
00:40:03,670 --> 00:40:02,960
christian terminology they just talk

1047
00:40:06,230 --> 00:40:03,680
about

1048
00:40:07,430 --> 00:40:06,240
satan as like the prince of this world

1049
00:40:10,630 --> 00:40:07,440
because like this world

1050
00:40:13,190 --> 00:40:10,640
needs those evil forces for us

1051
00:40:14,470 --> 00:40:13,200
souls to come here and do do what we've

1052
00:40:18,470 --> 00:40:14,480
got to do

1053
00:40:19,190 --> 00:40:18,480
and i i think um having no discernment

1054
00:40:22,630 --> 00:40:19,200
or having

1055
00:40:25,750 --> 00:40:22,640
the idea that evil doesn't exist

1056
00:40:29,430 --> 00:40:25,760
can just um make your time here

1057
00:40:30,390 --> 00:40:29,440
even more miserable or add consequences

1058
00:40:32,390 --> 00:40:30,400
to

1059
00:40:35,109 --> 00:40:32,400
you know what you bring with you after

1060
00:40:38,150 --> 00:40:35,119
death but um

1061
00:40:41,349 --> 00:40:38,160
i i i i like

1062
00:40:43,190 --> 00:40:41,359
your focus on acknowledging evil and

1063
00:40:46,790 --> 00:40:43,200
talking about evil

1064
00:40:50,230 --> 00:40:46,800
and not denying evil but i think

1065
00:40:53,589 --> 00:40:50,240
from a spiritual perspective you know

1066
00:40:54,470 --> 00:40:53,599
it's uh it's way less powerful than like

1067
00:41:01,750 --> 00:40:54,480
the

1068
00:41:03,750 --> 00:41:01,760
are really made of i guess i don't know

1069
00:41:05,829 --> 00:41:03,760
you know i i agree and the problem with

1070
00:41:08,550 --> 00:41:05,839
that is it

1071
00:41:10,390 --> 00:41:08,560
it doesn't have the power for people i

1072
00:41:11,109 --> 00:41:10,400
think they immediately want to turn away

1073
00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:11,119
because it doesn't

1074
00:41:14,470 --> 00:41:12,480
it doesn't give the juice it doesn't

1075
00:41:17,510 --> 00:41:14,480
give the jolt it doesn't give the

1076
00:41:17,990 --> 00:41:17,520
satanic ritual abuse jolt yeah i'm with

1077
00:41:22,710 --> 00:41:18,000
you

1078
00:41:27,589 --> 00:41:22,720
about love and

1079
00:41:31,510 --> 00:41:27,599
um the way things work in this world

1080
00:41:33,270 --> 00:41:31,520
i mean lately uh like i i think

1081
00:41:34,790 --> 00:41:33,280
not only do you need to like embrace

1082
00:41:38,870 --> 00:41:34,800
love and forgiveness

1083
00:41:42,230 --> 00:41:38,880
but you just need to be aware of

1084
00:41:45,190 --> 00:41:42,240
little negative thoughts and little

1085
00:41:46,309 --> 00:41:45,200
resentful thoughts and everything and

1086
00:41:48,630 --> 00:41:46,319
just stop yourself

1087
00:41:50,630 --> 00:41:48,640
and just change the way you're thinking

1088
00:41:52,950 --> 00:41:50,640
change your vibration

1089
00:41:55,349 --> 00:41:52,960
and then more like it's kind of like

1090
00:41:59,349 --> 00:41:55,359
that law of attraction thing like

1091
00:42:02,550 --> 00:41:59,359
you reap what you sow you attract

1092
00:42:03,990 --> 00:42:02,560
your your vibration matches um what's

1093
00:42:05,190 --> 00:42:04,000
coming towards you so if you're sitting

1094
00:42:07,430 --> 00:42:05,200
around

1095
00:42:09,589 --> 00:42:07,440
hateful and this is some this is a

1096
00:42:11,829 --> 00:42:09,599
problem with me i have a problem

1097
00:42:12,870 --> 00:42:11,839
of not forgiving people or not trusting

1098
00:42:17,510 --> 00:42:12,880
people

1099
00:42:18,710 --> 00:42:17,520
who's losing at the end of the day for

1100
00:42:22,630 --> 00:42:18,720
being like that

1101
00:42:24,069 --> 00:42:22,640
nobody but me so um when you talk about

1102
00:42:25,829 --> 00:42:24,079
you know the only thing that's going to

1103
00:42:28,470 --> 00:42:25,839
take us out of this hell

1104
00:42:29,670 --> 00:42:28,480
is the force of love and compassion and

1105
00:42:33,349 --> 00:42:29,680
forgiveness

1106
00:42:33,990 --> 00:42:33,359
yeah because it has a it has a domino

1107
00:42:38,069 --> 00:42:34,000
effect

1108
00:42:39,829 --> 00:42:38,079
and it's it's more

1109
00:42:41,589 --> 00:42:39,839
it's like you know when you shine a

1110
00:42:44,309 --> 00:42:41,599
light into a dark room it

1111
00:42:45,190 --> 00:42:44,319
lights up the whole room without that

1112
00:42:47,030 --> 00:42:45,200
one

1113
00:42:48,309 --> 00:42:47,040
source of light it's still pitch black

1114
00:42:51,750 --> 00:42:48,319
and

1115
00:42:55,589 --> 00:42:51,760
i think it's easier than we think to

1116
00:42:57,829 --> 00:42:55,599
to try to do better and to try to

1117
00:42:58,950 --> 00:42:57,839
get rid of these evil forces that are

1118
00:43:02,790 --> 00:42:58,960
everywhere

1119
00:43:04,150 --> 00:43:02,800
but i i see it as a very individualistic

1120
00:43:05,990 --> 00:43:04,160
journey because if you don't look at

1121
00:43:08,790 --> 00:43:06,000
yourself and

1122
00:43:10,390 --> 00:43:08,800
sort of think who am i who am i hating

1123
00:43:11,510 --> 00:43:10,400
right now who am i holding a grudge

1124
00:43:15,190 --> 00:43:11,520
against who am i

1125
00:43:16,870 --> 00:43:15,200
resentful towards um if you don't stop

1126
00:43:18,710 --> 00:43:16,880
and observe that then it's going to be

1127
00:43:23,109 --> 00:43:18,720
going on in the background

1128
00:43:25,829 --> 00:43:23,119
non-stop and it's it's it's a weird time

1129
00:43:26,710 --> 00:43:25,839
for kind of preaching these like

1130
00:43:30,150 --> 00:43:26,720
spiritual

1131
00:43:31,910 --> 00:43:30,160
love messages because so so many things

1132
00:43:34,630 --> 00:43:31,920
are topsy-turvy but i

1133
00:43:37,190 --> 00:43:34,640
i sort of think it's extremely

1134
00:43:39,190 --> 00:43:37,200
individualistic and you have to

1135
00:43:40,710 --> 00:43:39,200
save yourself you have to be accountable

1136
00:43:44,630 --> 00:43:40,720
for yourself

1137
00:43:48,150 --> 00:43:44,640
and know how powerful that is because

1138
00:43:50,710 --> 00:43:48,160
these evil forces really um

1139
00:43:51,910 --> 00:43:50,720
can't handle it and they'll they'll go

1140
00:43:55,349 --> 00:43:51,920
away the more people

1141
00:43:57,109 --> 00:43:55,359
embrace love

1142
00:43:58,790 --> 00:43:57,119
there's so many really interesting

1143
00:44:00,950 --> 00:43:58,800
little things you said there that i

1144
00:44:03,349 --> 00:44:00,960
think are so profound i mean one

1145
00:44:05,030 --> 00:44:03,359
you have to save yourself i love that

1146
00:44:07,910 --> 00:44:05,040
because i think that's

1147
00:44:08,230 --> 00:44:07,920
so true and i also agree with you that

1148
00:44:12,150 --> 00:44:08,240
it

1149
00:44:13,589 --> 00:44:12,160
is a matter of being mindful of the

1150
00:44:16,790 --> 00:44:13,599
little things

1151
00:44:17,829 --> 00:44:16,800
at the same time i i also i don't know

1152
00:44:19,030 --> 00:44:17,839
if i want to

1153
00:44:21,750 --> 00:44:19,040
i don't want to put words in your mouth

1154
00:44:23,670 --> 00:44:21,760
but i kind of heard you say

1155
00:44:25,349 --> 00:44:23,680
that you know this stuff isn't really

1156
00:44:27,510 --> 00:44:25,359
that hard in a way

1157
00:44:29,670 --> 00:44:27,520
you know it's just really not you know

1158
00:44:32,470 --> 00:44:29,680
it's uh

1159
00:44:33,990 --> 00:44:32,480
like one of my teachers mickey singer

1160
00:44:35,990 --> 00:44:34,000
says it's like you're drowning in six

1161
00:44:38,470 --> 00:44:36,000
inches of water you know

1162
00:44:39,270 --> 00:44:38,480
just lift your head up you know it's

1163
00:44:43,510 --> 00:44:39,280
don't

1164
00:44:44,790 --> 00:44:43,520
a guy i really really love this guy his

1165
00:44:46,550 --> 00:44:44,800
name is tim grimes

1166
00:44:48,309 --> 00:44:46,560
and he wrote a book the joy of not

1167
00:44:51,030 --> 00:44:48,319
thinking

1168
00:44:52,069 --> 00:44:51,040
and i found his book just going through

1169
00:44:55,430 --> 00:44:52,079
kindle

1170
00:44:57,109 --> 00:44:55,440
and it was uh in the it was

1171
00:44:59,030 --> 00:44:57,119
kindle unlimited i'm like wow that

1172
00:45:02,950 --> 00:44:59,040
sounds interesting the guy is

1173
00:45:04,710 --> 00:45:02,960
phenomenal i love this guy and the title

1174
00:45:06,550 --> 00:45:04,720
says it all in terms of what we're

1175
00:45:08,309 --> 00:45:06,560
talking about it's like

1176
00:45:10,069 --> 00:45:08,319
you don't have to [\h__\h] think about

1177
00:45:13,910 --> 00:45:10,079
everything

1178
00:45:16,790 --> 00:45:13,920
[\h__\h] seriously

1179
00:45:18,870 --> 00:45:16,800
you're not at the center of the universe

1180
00:45:20,550 --> 00:45:18,880
you're down at the scenery world

1181
00:45:21,910 --> 00:45:20,560
you're not even at the center of your

1182
00:45:25,589 --> 00:45:21,920
[\h__\h] county

1183
00:45:29,109 --> 00:45:25,599
you know it's not that what whatever

1184
00:45:31,910 --> 00:45:29,119
is going to happen you have you know

1185
00:45:32,470 --> 00:45:31,920
you you don't worry so freaking much

1186
00:45:35,510 --> 00:45:32,480
about it

1187
00:45:39,030 --> 00:45:35,520
and the other thing is just

1188
00:45:39,829 --> 00:45:39,040
be be playful have fun with yourself

1189
00:45:42,870 --> 00:45:39,839
with life

1190
00:45:45,109 --> 00:45:42,880
you know the joy of not thinking

1191
00:45:46,550 --> 00:45:45,119
how freeing it is to give this we don't

1192
00:45:48,870 --> 00:45:46,560
have to solve

1193
00:45:51,030 --> 00:45:48,880
all these problems these are other

1194
00:45:53,910 --> 00:45:51,040
people's problems for the most part that

1195
00:45:58,390 --> 00:45:53,920
we're taking on

1196
00:46:01,109 --> 00:45:58,400
yeah it's uh it's

1197
00:46:03,030 --> 00:46:01,119
just lately especially for me like it's

1198
00:46:05,109 --> 00:46:03,040
it's definitely and you have a yoga

1199
00:46:06,950 --> 00:46:05,119
background

1200
00:46:08,230 --> 00:46:06,960
i just think you know when you when if

1201
00:46:10,550 --> 00:46:08,240
you put the

1202
00:46:11,910 --> 00:46:10,560
the moralistic like christian

1203
00:46:14,710 --> 00:46:11,920
perspective of like you know

1204
00:46:15,990 --> 00:46:14,720
love love thy neighbor as thyself or

1205
00:46:19,030 --> 00:46:16,000
whatever

1206
00:46:20,630 --> 00:46:19,040
um and all the really basic tenets of

1207
00:46:21,990 --> 00:46:20,640
christianity which are pretty

1208
00:46:24,390 --> 00:46:22,000
straightforward and

1209
00:46:25,829 --> 00:46:24,400
true in my opinion debate like i'm not

1210
00:46:28,630 --> 00:46:25,839
talking about the dogma or the

1211
00:46:29,510 --> 00:46:28,640
institutions or anything but the basics

1212
00:46:32,950 --> 00:46:29,520
of

1213
00:46:33,589 --> 00:46:32,960
christianity are true but i notice like

1214
00:46:36,630 --> 00:46:33,599
when i'm

1215
00:46:40,309 --> 00:46:36,640
if if i don't embrace some kind of

1216
00:46:40,790 --> 00:46:40,319
let's say eastern practice i can't do

1217
00:46:43,510 --> 00:46:40,800
that

1218
00:46:44,550 --> 00:46:43,520
very effectively because if you're not

1219
00:46:47,750 --> 00:46:44,560
mindful

1220
00:46:50,069 --> 00:46:47,760
if you're not centered and

1221
00:46:50,870 --> 00:46:50,079
introspective how are you you're not

1222
00:46:53,910 --> 00:46:50,880
going to be aware

1223
00:46:57,510 --> 00:46:53,920
of when you're just pissed off

1224
00:46:59,829 --> 00:46:57,520
and resentful and um

1225
00:47:01,030 --> 00:46:59,839
spewing out negative things all the time

1226
00:47:02,550 --> 00:47:01,040
do you really believe that

1227
00:47:03,990 --> 00:47:02,560
see i don't think you believe that

1228
00:47:05,750 --> 00:47:04,000
because i think what you said before

1229
00:47:07,990 --> 00:47:05,760
contradicts that

1230
00:47:09,430 --> 00:47:08,000
which is that it's it's pretty easy you

1231
00:47:10,790 --> 00:47:09,440
just gotta catch yourself it's easy when

1232
00:47:12,390 --> 00:47:10,800
you're when you're spiraling

1233
00:47:14,069 --> 00:47:12,400
down that path we all see it in

1234
00:47:15,510 --> 00:47:14,079
ourselves we just like

1235
00:47:16,950 --> 00:47:15,520
we're just stuck in that groove and

1236
00:47:18,950 --> 00:47:16,960
we're like [\h__\h] this just feels more

1237
00:47:21,349 --> 00:47:18,960
comfortable right now to spew this [\h__\h]

1238
00:47:22,390 --> 00:47:21,359
or we've been told that hey it's a good

1239
00:47:24,950 --> 00:47:22,400
idea to

1240
00:47:25,750 --> 00:47:24,960
get it off your chest or to process and

1241
00:47:28,630 --> 00:47:25,760
stuff like that

1242
00:47:29,829 --> 00:47:28,640
i go back to a rewind on you dan what

1243
00:47:32,069 --> 00:47:29,839
you said before

1244
00:47:32,950 --> 00:47:32,079
which is just no you don't have to you

1245
00:47:35,910 --> 00:47:32,960
you find yourself

1246
00:47:36,710 --> 00:47:35,920
thinking those thoughts you go no think

1247
00:47:38,790 --> 00:47:36,720
uh

1248
00:47:40,390 --> 00:47:38,800
either stop thinking like my buddy tim

1249
00:47:42,230 --> 00:47:40,400
says or just

1250
00:47:43,430 --> 00:47:42,240
understand that there's a completely

1251
00:47:45,829 --> 00:47:43,440
other perspective

1252
00:47:48,549 --> 00:47:45,839
on you know whatever hate you're having

1253
00:47:51,349 --> 00:47:48,559
you know about some other person

1254
00:47:52,069 --> 00:47:51,359
right right i'm just saying um i was

1255
00:47:55,030 --> 00:47:52,079
just trying to

1256
00:47:55,589 --> 00:47:55,040
bridge the gap between you know being

1257
00:47:58,630 --> 00:47:55,599
good and

1258
00:48:01,510 --> 00:47:58,640
being forgiving and loving and being

1259
00:48:03,829 --> 00:48:01,520
self-aware about it and having a

1260
00:48:06,870 --> 00:48:03,839
mindfulness practice

1261
00:48:10,150 --> 00:48:06,880
definitely gets you out of that

1262
00:48:11,430 --> 00:48:10,160
autopilot mode because if you're if

1263
00:48:13,910 --> 00:48:11,440
you're not stopping

1264
00:48:15,030 --> 00:48:13,920
and observing your thoughts which is

1265
00:48:17,990 --> 00:48:15,040
what you do in

1266
00:48:19,990 --> 00:48:18,000
mindfulness meditation you i don't know

1267
00:48:21,510 --> 00:48:20,000
i mean you might not be aware of of

1268
00:48:23,829 --> 00:48:21,520
what of how you're acting because you're

1269
00:48:27,030 --> 00:48:23,839
just impulsively

1270
00:48:27,910 --> 00:48:27,040
um reacting to everything around you and

1271
00:48:31,030 --> 00:48:27,920
you're not

1272
00:48:33,829 --> 00:48:31,040
thinking oh i have the choice to stop

1273
00:48:36,069 --> 00:48:33,839
thinking about this and just hit mute

1274
00:48:39,109 --> 00:48:36,079
for a second and if you hit mute

1275
00:48:41,589 --> 00:48:39,119
all of a sudden that little uh

1276
00:48:43,109 --> 00:48:41,599
burst can kind of dissolve and you're at

1277
00:48:44,470 --> 00:48:43,119
square one again

1278
00:48:46,549 --> 00:48:44,480
i don't know that's just what i've been

1279
00:48:49,190 --> 00:48:46,559
recently kind of doing

1280
00:48:50,710 --> 00:48:49,200
with the stresses of this year the

1281
00:48:54,710 --> 00:48:50,720
stresses of

1282
00:48:55,750 --> 00:48:54,720
a day job and like just realizing the

1283
00:48:58,230 --> 00:48:55,760
little things

1284
00:48:59,589 --> 00:48:58,240
are really dragging me down just like

1285
00:49:01,510 --> 00:48:59,599
the you know getting

1286
00:49:02,630 --> 00:49:01,520
getting pissed at somebody at work or

1287
00:49:04,630 --> 00:49:02,640
getting pissed at

1288
00:49:06,150 --> 00:49:04,640
someone in your family for a little

1289
00:49:07,109 --> 00:49:06,160
thing and then just letting that grow

1290
00:49:10,230 --> 00:49:07,119
and grow

1291
00:49:11,829 --> 00:49:10,240
i think the mind like being mindful as

1292
00:49:12,549 --> 00:49:11,839
much as possible and knowing that you

1293
00:49:14,390 --> 00:49:12,559
can just hit

1294
00:49:15,670 --> 00:49:14,400
stop like you're saying stop thinking

1295
00:49:19,349 --> 00:49:15,680
for a second hit

1296
00:49:20,549 --> 00:49:19,359
reset i think is serving me lately at

1297
00:49:23,190 --> 00:49:20,559
least

1298
00:49:24,950 --> 00:49:23,200
and that's awesome so we're just

1299
00:49:28,150 --> 00:49:24,960
shooting ideas back and forth

1300
00:49:29,750 --> 00:49:28,160
oh yeah yeah so two things that that i

1301
00:49:31,349 --> 00:49:29,760
these are like subtle little things but

1302
00:49:32,630 --> 00:49:31,359
this is like the most important fun

1303
00:49:34,230 --> 00:49:32,640
stuff to talk about

1304
00:49:35,829 --> 00:49:34,240
i see it kind of differently and it

1305
00:49:37,910 --> 00:49:35,839
doesn't mean that i haven't tried

1306
00:49:39,510 --> 00:49:37,920
exactly what you're talking about but

1307
00:49:42,069 --> 00:49:39,520
where i'm at now

1308
00:49:43,990 --> 00:49:42,079
is one you know like i told you tim

1309
00:49:46,230 --> 00:49:44,000
grimes the joy not thinking is that that

1310
00:49:47,510 --> 00:49:46,240
really is an option and i think we're so

1311
00:49:50,230 --> 00:49:47,520
conditioned to thinking

1312
00:49:50,710 --> 00:49:50,240
that that isn't an option other than in

1313
00:49:53,270 --> 00:49:50,720
some

1314
00:49:54,230 --> 00:49:53,280
super tricky spiritual eastern way of

1315
00:49:56,470 --> 00:49:54,240
not thinking

1316
00:49:58,309 --> 00:49:56,480
of being mindful of being centered and

1317
00:49:59,270 --> 00:49:58,319
tim saying [\h__\h] that [\h__\h] just stop

1318
00:50:00,710 --> 00:49:59,280
thinking

1319
00:50:02,710 --> 00:50:00,720
you don't you don't have to think and

1320
00:50:04,870 --> 00:50:02,720
then when you say that that to somebody

1321
00:50:06,630 --> 00:50:04,880
you'll notice that they'll go like well

1322
00:50:09,589 --> 00:50:06,640
i can't do that i mean what would happen

1323
00:50:10,150 --> 00:50:09,599
okay stop thinking for the next 30

1324
00:50:12,230 --> 00:50:10,160
seconds

1325
00:50:13,829 --> 00:50:12,240
how about that would that totally [\h__\h]

1326
00:50:14,549 --> 00:50:13,839
up your life would your life totally

1327
00:50:16,470 --> 00:50:14,559
fall apart

1328
00:50:17,589 --> 00:50:16,480
if you stopped [\h__\h] thinking for the

1329
00:50:21,270 --> 00:50:17,599
next 30 seconds

1330
00:50:23,270 --> 00:50:21,280
give it a try stop thinking

1331
00:50:24,630 --> 00:50:23,280
stop thinking you have to know stop

1332
00:50:27,349 --> 00:50:24,640
thinking enough to solve

1333
00:50:27,990 --> 00:50:27,359
stop thinking you have to fix just stop

1334
00:50:31,190 --> 00:50:28,000
thinking

1335
00:50:33,990 --> 00:50:31,200
be a bum daydream you know

1336
00:50:36,069 --> 00:50:34,000
watch your feet as you walk you know do

1337
00:50:37,750 --> 00:50:36,079
whatever it doesn't matter it's not like

1338
00:50:38,950 --> 00:50:37,760
you have to substitute it with something

1339
00:50:41,829 --> 00:50:38,960
great or something

1340
00:50:42,950 --> 00:50:41,839
magnificent or something epic just [\h__\h]

1341
00:50:45,430 --> 00:50:42,960
it be a bum

1342
00:50:47,430 --> 00:50:45,440
for 30 seconds and stop thinking and

1343
00:50:49,750 --> 00:50:47,440
taking it seriously

1344
00:50:51,030 --> 00:50:49,760
and the other guy point to is my [\h__\h]

1345
00:50:53,430 --> 00:50:51,040
man wim hof

1346
00:50:54,470 --> 00:50:53,440
who says the same thing [\h__\h] it i go in

1347
00:50:56,470 --> 00:50:54,480
the

1348
00:50:58,150 --> 00:50:56,480
i think i told you i mean i built it i i

1349
00:51:02,630 --> 00:50:58,160
believe in whim so much i built a

1350
00:51:04,549 --> 00:51:02,640
[\h__\h] ice bath in my backyard and it's

1351
00:51:05,910 --> 00:51:04,559
filled with water and ice and it's like

1352
00:51:09,270 --> 00:51:05,920
big chunks of ice

1353
00:51:12,309 --> 00:51:09,280
you go in the ice you're not

1354
00:51:14,069 --> 00:51:12,319
it's magnificent it's brutal

1355
00:51:16,390 --> 00:51:14,079
and you don't want to do it but it's

1356
00:51:19,430 --> 00:51:16,400
magnificent you are not

1357
00:51:20,790 --> 00:51:19,440
thinking about stupid [\h__\h] [\h__\h] and

1358
00:51:23,829 --> 00:51:20,800
what does whims say

1359
00:51:27,030 --> 00:51:23,839
he says three things be happy

1360
00:51:29,270 --> 00:51:27,040
be strong and be healthy

1361
00:51:30,069 --> 00:51:29,280
you know you don't have to you can

1362
00:51:32,950 --> 00:51:30,079
choose

1363
00:51:34,309 --> 00:51:32,960
to be happy all this [\h__\h] that's going

1364
00:51:36,150 --> 00:51:34,319
on the vaccines are going to

1365
00:51:38,470 --> 00:51:36,160
they might do all the [\h__\h] it i don't

1366
00:51:41,030 --> 00:51:38,480
care i choose to be happy

1367
00:51:42,390 --> 00:51:41,040
and and if you you know work at managing

1368
00:51:44,870 --> 00:51:42,400
the

1369
00:51:47,109 --> 00:51:44,880
biology that you have get good sun get

1370
00:51:48,950 --> 00:51:47,119
good exercise hop in that ice bath

1371
00:51:50,470 --> 00:51:48,960
you're much more likely that the

1372
00:51:51,990 --> 00:51:50,480
chemicals in your brain are working

1373
00:51:52,710 --> 00:51:52,000
better and you just are naturally

1374
00:51:54,549 --> 00:51:52,720
happier

1375
00:51:56,309 --> 00:51:54,559
but again the programming we have is

1376
00:51:56,870 --> 00:51:56,319
that that's not a good idea no you

1377
00:52:02,390 --> 00:51:56,880
couldn't

1378
00:52:05,990 --> 00:52:02,400
possibly be happy

1379
00:52:10,309 --> 00:52:06,000
big game long game big game only game

1380
00:52:13,430 --> 00:52:10,319
only game be happy that's all there is

1381
00:52:14,150 --> 00:52:13,440
i'm totally with you and um it gets me

1382
00:52:17,670 --> 00:52:14,160
thinking too

1383
00:52:20,069 --> 00:52:17,680
because uh i just moved this year and

1384
00:52:20,950 --> 00:52:20,079
yeah i'm pretty damn happy this year

1385
00:52:22,950 --> 00:52:20,960
like i

1386
00:52:24,790 --> 00:52:22,960
am keeping this podcast going i'm

1387
00:52:27,109 --> 00:52:24,800
playing in a band

1388
00:52:28,390 --> 00:52:27,119
i get to snowboard because i live in a

1389
00:52:30,390 --> 00:52:28,400
ski town

1390
00:52:32,069 --> 00:52:30,400
and you know a part of me is sort of

1391
00:52:33,589 --> 00:52:32,079
like man i'm so

1392
00:52:35,670 --> 00:52:33,599
happy like i should be a little bit

1393
00:52:37,030 --> 00:52:35,680
guilty i should feel a little guilty

1394
00:52:39,349 --> 00:52:37,040
right

1395
00:52:40,549 --> 00:52:39,359
but it's just like if you're cultivating

1396
00:52:43,990 --> 00:52:40,559
your own happiness

1397
00:52:46,230 --> 00:52:44,000
in in sort of a self-centered way it

1398
00:52:48,390 --> 00:52:46,240
has effects on the people in your life

1399
00:52:51,430 --> 00:52:48,400
and you're actually doing good work

1400
00:52:53,109 --> 00:52:51,440
by just focusing on yourself

1401
00:52:55,030 --> 00:52:53,119
so that you're you are happy and you're

1402
00:52:56,390 --> 00:52:55,040
not carrying around resentment and all

1403
00:52:57,750 --> 00:52:56,400
of this stuff and

1404
00:52:59,750 --> 00:52:57,760
and when you're saying you know with you

1405
00:53:02,069 --> 00:52:59,760
when you're talking about wim hof

1406
00:53:02,870 --> 00:53:02,079
when you're talking about the the guy

1407
00:53:05,589 --> 00:53:02,880
that's saying

1408
00:53:06,870 --> 00:53:05,599
stop thinking or don't think i'm i'm

1409
00:53:08,390 --> 00:53:06,880
with you a hundred percent

1410
00:53:10,710 --> 00:53:08,400
i think it's just important to think

1411
00:53:13,349 --> 00:53:10,720
about that as a practice

1412
00:53:15,750 --> 00:53:13,359
like you can't just i think if you to

1413
00:53:18,549 --> 00:53:15,760
actually stop thinking you have to

1414
00:53:19,190 --> 00:53:18,559
work at it rather than just do it on

1415
00:53:21,190 --> 00:53:19,200
command

1416
00:53:22,710 --> 00:53:21,200
okay but just just to be clear tim

1417
00:53:25,910 --> 00:53:22,720
grimes is saying

1418
00:53:28,950 --> 00:53:25,920
the exact opposite of that he's saying

1419
00:53:31,270 --> 00:53:28,960
okay that out of your head i

1420
00:53:33,109 --> 00:53:31,280
i agree with what what he's saying i

1421
00:53:34,630 --> 00:53:33,119
guess i've never read his work or

1422
00:53:37,030 --> 00:53:34,640
anything but

1423
00:53:39,030 --> 00:53:37,040
i like the idea that yeah it's not this

1424
00:53:41,829 --> 00:53:39,040
like complicated practice

1425
00:53:42,309 --> 00:53:41,839
yeah just stop thinking just make it

1426
00:53:45,109 --> 00:53:42,319
easy

1427
00:53:47,589 --> 00:53:45,119
don't overthink it don't think i think

1428
00:53:50,790 --> 00:53:47,599
that's great too but

1429
00:53:52,230 --> 00:53:50,800
in my experience of trying to

1430
00:53:53,910 --> 00:53:52,240
do you think do you think when you

1431
00:53:58,790 --> 00:53:53,920
snowboard

1432
00:54:00,710 --> 00:53:58,800
oh no that's what that's why i do it

1433
00:54:02,870 --> 00:54:00,720
but yeah the like the flow state that

1434
00:54:05,270 --> 00:54:02,880
you get into whether it's

1435
00:54:06,630 --> 00:54:05,280
you know making art or snowboarding or

1436
00:54:09,109 --> 00:54:06,640
any of that that's that's

1437
00:54:11,910 --> 00:54:09,119
amazing but even i'm just saying that

1438
00:54:15,030 --> 00:54:11,920
you have to at least

1439
00:54:16,790 --> 00:54:15,040
put a little bit of work into like say

1440
00:54:18,630 --> 00:54:16,800
if you just want to not think and

1441
00:54:20,870 --> 00:54:18,640
snowboarding is your way of doing that

1442
00:54:23,109 --> 00:54:20,880
well you at least have to like

1443
00:54:23,990 --> 00:54:23,119
figure out how to snowboard as much as

1444
00:54:27,270 --> 00:54:24,000
possible which can

1445
00:54:29,750 --> 00:54:27,280
be i don't know i'm just saying

1446
00:54:31,589 --> 00:54:29,760
it takes a little bit of work to do i

1447
00:54:35,670 --> 00:54:31,599
still consider that a practice

1448
00:54:37,750 --> 00:54:35,680
to to not think and i think practice

1449
00:54:39,270 --> 00:54:37,760
you get better at it with time and i

1450
00:54:42,309 --> 00:54:39,280
don't

1451
00:54:45,030 --> 00:54:42,319
just say

1452
00:54:46,630 --> 00:54:45,040
no don't think now and it'll take no

1453
00:54:50,069 --> 00:54:46,640
work just do it now you'll

1454
00:54:52,710 --> 00:54:50,079
instant success i i'm more of like

1455
00:54:54,789 --> 00:54:52,720
of the opinion that it does take work in

1456
00:54:57,750 --> 00:54:54,799
the long run but it is a great

1457
00:54:59,910 --> 00:54:57,760
um goal and it's a great sentiment for

1458
00:55:02,549 --> 00:54:59,920
sure

1459
00:55:03,270 --> 00:55:02,559
so uh we've been at this for a little

1460
00:55:06,309 --> 00:55:03,280
while

1461
00:55:08,789 --> 00:55:06,319
tell folks what's going on at

1462
00:55:09,829 --> 00:55:08,799
cosmic keys who you got coming up to who

1463
00:55:12,950 --> 00:55:09,839
you're talking to

1464
00:55:16,710 --> 00:55:12,960
where you where you're planning on going

1465
00:55:17,510 --> 00:55:16,720
well um i've got a lot of interviews on

1466
00:55:21,349 --> 00:55:17,520
deck

1467
00:55:24,789 --> 00:55:21,359
at the moment um and i've been

1468
00:55:26,470 --> 00:55:24,799
i'm trying to bring it kind of more back

1469
00:55:28,549 --> 00:55:26,480
i'm really interested in talking about

1470
00:55:30,069 --> 00:55:28,559
astrology um

1471
00:55:31,670 --> 00:55:30,079
we didn't really talk about astrology in

1472
00:55:35,349 --> 00:55:31,680
this interview but it's

1473
00:55:37,270 --> 00:55:35,359
a thing that i am actually

1474
00:55:39,430 --> 00:55:37,280
pretty skeptical of at the end of the

1475
00:55:42,630 --> 00:55:39,440
day but

1476
00:55:45,829 --> 00:55:42,640
i what i like about astrology is

1477
00:55:49,430 --> 00:55:45,839
just the act of of observing

1478
00:55:50,069 --> 00:55:49,440
time it you know if you make predictions

1479
00:55:52,150 --> 00:55:50,079
or if you make

1480
00:55:53,349 --> 00:55:52,160
interpretations that's one thing but if

1481
00:55:56,470 --> 00:55:53,359
you just simply

1482
00:55:58,870 --> 00:55:56,480
observe the movement i think that's

1483
00:56:00,710 --> 00:55:58,880
um the most fulfilling thing about

1484
00:56:02,390 --> 00:56:00,720
astrology so

1485
00:56:03,829 --> 00:56:02,400
i'm going to be talking to people about

1486
00:56:06,950 --> 00:56:03,839
the astrology of

1487
00:56:08,150 --> 00:56:06,960
2021 and kind of what we're we might

1488
00:56:11,430 --> 00:56:08,160
expect there

1489
00:56:14,549 --> 00:56:11,440
and i'm definitely just you know

1490
00:56:16,069 --> 00:56:14,559
trying to keep it going and keep

1491
00:56:19,190 --> 00:56:16,079
talking to people that i find

1492
00:56:22,470 --> 00:56:19,200
interesting i'm discovering a lot of new

1493
00:56:25,670 --> 00:56:22,480
podcasts out there as well and

1494
00:56:26,870 --> 00:56:25,680
um just kind of you know even talking

1495
00:56:28,950 --> 00:56:26,880
with you talking with all the other

1496
00:56:31,990 --> 00:56:28,960
podcasters that i speak with

1497
00:56:35,190 --> 00:56:32,000
i love the networking aspect of it and

1498
00:56:37,510 --> 00:56:35,200
it's it's it's extremely fun to

1499
00:56:39,990 --> 00:56:37,520
you know schedule an hour interview and

1500
00:56:42,549 --> 00:56:40,000
just have a real conversation

1501
00:56:45,349 --> 00:56:42,559
once a week versus all the mundane

1502
00:56:48,870 --> 00:56:45,359
conversations that we usually have

1503
00:56:51,430 --> 00:56:48,880
with people with everyday people so

1504
00:56:52,150 --> 00:56:51,440
i'm just you know following my bliss and

1505
00:56:55,190 --> 00:56:52,160
bringing

1506
00:56:57,109 --> 00:56:55,200
um whatever just i'm open to whatever

1507
00:57:00,390 --> 00:56:57,119
comes with the future of the show but

1508
00:57:03,430 --> 00:57:00,400
uh yeah and i think i think

1509
00:57:06,549 --> 00:57:03,440
i'm gonna be changing the patreon

1510
00:57:10,069 --> 00:57:06,559
format so that's gonna be coming up

1511
00:57:11,750 --> 00:57:10,079
later on but um

1512
00:57:13,430 --> 00:57:11,760
yeah that's about all i can think of

1513
00:57:15,349 --> 00:57:13,440
with cosmic keys

1514
00:57:17,190 --> 00:57:15,359
well cool i'm a fan i'm going to

1515
00:57:18,950 --> 00:57:17,200
continue to listen

1516
00:57:20,309 --> 00:57:18,960
and uh this has been a great chat kind

1517
00:57:22,549 --> 00:57:20,319
of went a bunch of different

1518
00:57:23,510 --> 00:57:22,559
places we didn't really plan it but

1519
00:57:25,670 --> 00:57:23,520
that's okay

1520
00:57:28,309 --> 00:57:25,680
oh yeah that's perfectly fine i had a

1521
00:57:29,990 --> 00:57:28,319
great time chatting here and um

1522
00:57:31,750 --> 00:57:30,000
i've really been enjoying your show too

1523
00:57:35,829 --> 00:57:31,760
and i've uh i

1524
00:57:39,270 --> 00:57:35,839
i like that you have me a podcaster on

1525
00:57:40,230 --> 00:57:39,280
and i i've like i've actually subscribed

1526
00:57:43,430 --> 00:57:40,240
to

1527
00:57:45,270 --> 00:57:43,440
a handful of the the podcasters you've

1528
00:57:47,109 --> 00:57:45,280
recently had on

1529
00:57:49,430 --> 00:57:47,119
and have been really enjoying those

1530
00:57:51,910 --> 00:57:49,440
shows too so

1531
00:57:52,710 --> 00:57:51,920
maybe uh someone listening will catch my

1532
00:57:55,589 --> 00:57:52,720
show and

1533
00:57:56,870 --> 00:57:55,599
i just like discovering new voices and

1534
00:57:59,670 --> 00:57:56,880
you've been doing that

1535
00:58:01,109 --> 00:57:59,680
more recently it seems like yeah and i'm

1536
00:58:01,990 --> 00:58:01,119
going to continue to do it because i

1537
00:58:05,030 --> 00:58:02,000
can't

1538
00:58:07,990 --> 00:58:05,040
could not agree with you more about

1539
00:58:09,109 --> 00:58:08,000
just having meaningful conversations you

1540
00:58:11,190 --> 00:58:09,119
know

1541
00:58:12,710 --> 00:58:11,200
on a regular basis and i think

1542
00:58:14,549 --> 00:58:12,720
podcasters

1543
00:58:16,549 --> 00:58:14,559
and like i told you when we first talked

1544
00:58:17,430 --> 00:58:16,559
i mean i i was turned on to what you're

1545
00:58:20,390 --> 00:58:17,440
doing i was like

1546
00:58:22,549 --> 00:58:20,400
wow this is great these are great

1547
00:58:23,829 --> 00:58:22,559
conversations that dan's having i really

1548
00:58:27,109 --> 00:58:23,839
want to

1549
00:58:28,870 --> 00:58:27,119
join in so it's a cool process

1550
00:58:30,309 --> 00:58:28,880
yeah well like i told you i've been

1551
00:58:34,829 --> 00:58:30,319
listening to skeptico

1552
00:58:37,510 --> 00:58:34,839
since probably like 2014 or 15 or

1553
00:58:40,549 --> 00:58:37,520
something and you're totally up there

1554
00:58:41,670 --> 00:58:40,559
with you know i mean my i i just didn't

1555
00:58:44,870 --> 00:58:41,680
like

1556
00:58:47,270 --> 00:58:44,880
doing my show the way i think podcasts

1557
00:58:49,270 --> 00:58:47,280
should sound and your show the

1558
00:58:51,270 --> 00:58:49,280
conversation style you have

1559
00:58:52,390 --> 00:58:51,280
is an influence on me same with a lot of

1560
00:58:56,390 --> 00:58:52,400
other

1561
00:58:58,470 --> 00:58:56,400
we're it's all kind of like a big

1562
00:59:00,789 --> 00:58:58,480
network and we're all kind of just

1563
00:59:01,670 --> 00:59:00,799
helping each other out and bouncing

1564
00:59:03,990 --> 00:59:01,680
ideas and

1565
00:59:06,069 --> 00:59:04,000
inspiring things with each other so it's

1566
00:59:12,630 --> 00:59:06,079
all good

1567
00:59:13,430 --> 00:59:12,640
dan cosmickeys check it out it's great

1568
00:59:18,549 --> 00:59:13,440
having you

1569
00:59:20,309 --> 00:59:18,559
yeah thanks again alex it was really fun

1570
00:59:22,630 --> 00:59:20,319
thanks again to dan for joining me today

1571
00:59:25,109 --> 00:59:22,640
on skepticgo do check out his show

1572
00:59:31,270 --> 00:59:25,119
cosmic keys i promise you won't be

1573
00:59:42,789 --> 00:59:33,430
the one question i t up from this

1574
00:59:42,799 --> 00:59:48,630
do you think we

1575
00:59:51,750 --> 00:59:50,150
what do you think of the long game big

1576
01:00:00,309 --> 00:59:51,760
game only game

1577
01:00:04,870 --> 01:00:00,319
idea that we're kicking around here

1578
01:00:10,150 --> 01:00:07,430
are a lot of our frustrations are a lot

1579
01:00:11,750 --> 01:00:10,160
of our frustrations and worries

1580
01:00:14,789 --> 01:00:11,760
are a lot of our frustrations and

1581
01:00:17,990 --> 01:00:14,799
worries due to the fact that we focus

1582
01:00:18,710 --> 01:00:18,000
too much on the now game and not enough

1583
01:00:22,630 --> 01:00:18,720
on the

1584
01:00:27,030 --> 01:00:25,270
let me know your thoughts love for you

1585
01:00:27,430 --> 01:00:27,040
to join me over on the skeptical forum

1586
01:00:28,710 --> 01:00:27,440
but

1587
01:00:31,670 --> 01:00:28,720
you don't have to do that if you don't

1588
01:00:32,950 --> 01:00:31,680
want to you can just continue to listen

1589
01:00:35,030 --> 01:00:32,960
to the show

1590
01:00:36,950 --> 01:00:35,040
i have some new ones coming up real soon

1591
01:00:40,829 --> 01:00:36,960
stay with me for all of that

1592
01:00:45,829 --> 01:00:40,839
until next time take care and bye for

1593
01:00:49,190 --> 01:00:48,710
show with just an extraordinary with